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Do You Agree With President Obama's Immigration Policy?

President Obama's immigration policy will allow young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally to seek work permits.

 

The Obama administration announced it will no longer deport younger immigrants who were brought to the U.S. illegally when they were children and will begin issuing work permits to them, The Huffington Post reports.

The permits only would be available to individuals who had led law-abiding lives, the website reported. As many as 800,000 people could be affected by the policy change.

"Today, I am announcing that effective immediately, young people brought to U.S. by no fault of their own and meet several criteria no longer are removed from country or entered into removal proceedings,” Department of Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said to Fox News.

Fox News reported immigrants will have had to live in the U.S. for five years, be younger than 30, and have arrived before they turned 16 to qualify.

The Los Angeles Times reported House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, R-Texas, said the policy change "ignores the rule of law that is the foundation of our democracy. This huge policy shift has horrible consequences for unemployed Americans looking for jobs and violates President Obama’s oath to uphold the laws of this land."

Florida Congressman Allen West told Fox News that the policy change was an example of "executive overreach." West told Fox that the change should have been debated as legislation by Congress.

The policy change accomplishes many of the goals of the DREAM Act, which passed the House in 2010 but stalled in the Senate, The Huffington Post reported.

What do you think of the president's actions? Should young immigrants brought to the U.S. illegally be allowed work permits? Or do you agree with Congressman Smith, who said this policy shift will have horrible consequences for the unemployed in America? 

Related Topics: Barack Obama, Election, Immigration, Patch, election guide, and participate 2012

Chris Helfer

8:13 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I do not agree with his policy of breaking the law!

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Bob Emling

8:56 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I do not agree with the President. We have laws that need to be obeyed. Where was the President in 2009 on this matter when he had control of the Senate and the House. Why didn't he use his Chicago style gangster tactics on the Democrats that voted against amnesty. This was done to get votes. How is the Government going to monitor this, when they can't even monitor green cards.

Ed Purvis

8:35 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

This is totally unconstituional and Obama said as much previously !

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Larry Lazar

8:41 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Absolutely agree with the President, as to the majority of reasonable Republicans.

Here is video that explains why.

http://www.upworthy.com/why-honor-students-across-the-country-are-being-thrown-in-jail?c=to1

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Devon Seddon

4:17 pm on Tuesday, June 26, 2012

Soft emotional music, good grades & scholarships don't change immigration status. Niether does this EO. Address the problem or shut-up.
These kids' parents brought them here illegally knowing they'd be illegal too. It's their fault they came in illegally, and the governments' fault for not providing a legal option.
Patting yourself on the back for exploiting the plight of these people (that this move allows to continue) isn't solving the problem. This is all about posturing & appearances. Conveniently, it keeps the real problem around for future exploitation.
Move the idea of 'Ellis Island' to a few locations on the southern border. You want to REALLY help these people? This is how. You want jobs? There you go. You want more taxes? There they are. You want to be able to cover the costs of having these people here and keeping them educated, and healthy? Done. You want to end ILLEGAL immigration and a help them begin a better life? Also done. You want to provide them with the same opportunites as every one else. Boom. Again, it’s just another simple solution that seems to elude our politicians due to posturing & politics.
That video was rediculous on many levels, but was this really an "honor" student with a scholarship to Harvard that didn't know if he had a Social or not? Now we know how the President got in.
Again, stop patting yourselves on the back for exploiting these people to get votes. Do something of substance or shut up. Geez, people are suckers.

Margaret Eisenberger

8:46 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

After waiting over three years for Congress to address this problem, it was completely legal and responsible for President Obama to take this initiative. The only thing wrong with it is that it doesn't go far enough.

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FedUpVet

9:15 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I've been a Democrat all of my life. I'm extremely disturbed about this president that treats our Constitution like toilet paper and himself as Monarch of a Royal Family. He does whatever he wants by executive order even if the topic is not part of the executive branch. Now this morning, he grants the Fast and Furious Documents as Executive Privilege to protect Eric Holder!

If he doesn't get his way, he just hands down a ruling as if he were King. He says Congress takes too long or is at an impasse. Immigration is outside of the scope of his office. He is wrong for doing what he did and is breaking the law.

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FedUpVet

9:19 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

By the way, this is not about children born here or anchor babies. This is about children born in another country and brought to this country illegally when their parent(s) came to this country illegally.

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Earl Higgins

10:16 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

So Nick, just to be clear, we're talking about children brought to this country by their parents BEFORE they were 16 years old. Why would you hold children under 16 responsible for the actions of their parents? Serious question.

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Earl Higgins

10:23 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Nick, in the future please avoid the use of pejorative terms like "a*r babies". I'm certainly can all agree to have a civil discussion on what is already such an emotionally charged issue. Use of such language just makes one look like they are speaking from the fringe.

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FedUpVet

11:18 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

That term is used by the news media and the government. So please tell me why that is offensive. Also, those children were born in another country, so why should it apply? They were not born here nor did they immigrate legally. No one and I mean no one, should be in this country unless they are here legally. That means citizens, people with visas (student, work, migrant work, etc.), those with passports visiting or anyone else. Most of us came from families who immigrated legally. Why should anyone else be different.

If someone whats citizenship and benefits, they should earn it legally thought the State Department or serve in the U.S. Military and earn it that way. If not, it's a slap in the face of all of those who came here legally and did the right thing.

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Earl Higgins

1:17 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Nick, I'm sorry but you are either being a troll or are being willfully ignorant. Both behaviors are unacceptable in a civil discussion. You state (without evidence or references) that the term "is used by the news media and the government". Saying the term is used by the news media is meaningless; it's like saying "it's on the Internet so it must be okay". Heck, you used it on this page, and you could argue that this page is "the news media" so it's a circular argument along the lines of "I used it so it's okay to use it". As for your claim that the government uses it, I'm going to call that a lie, it's an outrageous claim and I'm not buying it, until you show otherwise.

As for evidence that it's offensive, I assume you know how to use Google-read the first search result. If you don't trust Wikipedia, then check the American Heritage Dictionary or any number of reference sources. For that matter, the Wikipedia article has no less than 23 references, you could learn from them.

Seriously, your insistence that the term is not degrading or offensive doesn't put you in a good light. It is like a crazy uncle who shows up at family reunions, insisting that the use of the "N" word isn't offensive. Is that really how you want to appear? Let's stick to discussing the issue at hand.

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FedUpVet

5:39 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Earl, actually as previously stated, it has nothing to do with the illegal actions by the president. His executive order said nothing about that. Others brought it up. Sorry if I'm not politically correct. I'lll just say the truth and leave it at that. You're actually showing what seems to be the attitude contrary for what this country stands for - Freedom. Socialists are trying everything they can to take from those who have earned a place here. Wouldn't it be nice if we could earmark our taxes so that we don't have to pay for socialistic programs like some want to support?

As to immigration and our citizenship, an old veteran once told me that all citizenship is earned. Ours was earned by those that came before us and sacrificed for our freedom. It's up to us to make sacrifices for the next generation and guarantee their freedoms. If anyone thinks we have the same freedoms today as say in the 1950's they are delusional and a product of socialistic government beliefs. You obviously fall into that catagory.

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FedUpVet

9:31 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

So Earl, you're back to name calling again, both with me and others. You're either part of the solution or part of the problem, it's obvious which side you are on. Again, you show your inability to discuss a topic without lowering yourself to name calling and classless demeanor.

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Jaycen Rigger

10:55 am on Monday, June 25, 2012

Nick's offense at the term has everything to do with controlling the message.

"Please don't call something what it is, because then most people will disagree with my anti-American message."

Barbara Gianino

9:47 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Yes. Keep the good throw out the bad.

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Holston Black Jr.

9:54 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I have worked, when I was in college, with illegals picking our crops and helping us maintain our economy. There was no ostracism because we needed them and it benefitted the USA. What is wrong in giving their progeny a chance to help this country but without taking advantage of them? As the video explains it's the CHRISTIAN thing to do. Still to this day their parents are doing jobs that we refuse to do, does this scenario sound familiar, maybe from 500 to 600 years ago?

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Bob Emling

10:11 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

What about legal Americans needing jobs. With this terrible economy, there are American citizens now willing to do that work. Look at the unemployment of youths in the inner city. Given the opportunity, many of these young folks would be willing to do the work. Look at unemployed in their 50's. These folks would like to have an opportunity to work too.

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Kim

10:14 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Our constitution mush be followed by all citizens and Obama should be the ultimate example as our leader. Very disturbing. I do not agree. It is an issue that should be addresses but inside the confines of our law.

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charlie jagust

10:18 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

NO! His statenmnet of "This is what the American people want..." I do not think he is talking to true American people. There are ways that the students can come to America Leaglly with the current laws.

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Earl Higgins

11:16 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Charlie, you have fallen victim to the old "No True Scotsman" fallacy. Apparently, by your logic, I'm not a "true American" because I want exactly what he offered Friday. Please think more critically in the future, thanks.

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Devon Seddon

6:57 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Don't buy those garbage phrases: "This is what the American people want". Ok, then put it to a vote. How many people did you ask? Who were they? It only means this is what the GOVERNMENT wants.
It's the same with "We as a society", it only means "We as a GOVERNMENT".
Again, it's the difference between asking you what you want & telling you what you want. If they were so sure they were right, they'd have no problem putting in to the people, but it ain't about you.
It's about leaving over 200+ bills sitting on the Senate floor, and then accusing the the Congress of not playing fair. It's about saying the Congress isn't doing anything, when the Senate hasn't even addressed a budget in over 4 years.
It's dishonest posturing, nothing more.
It's the only thing we ever get out of the government anymore, politics.

Melinda Pennington

10:18 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

A big NO from us! What about the folks who are trying to go through the immigration process legally? I'm thinking he is just trying to get votes. His executive orders scare us and we don't believe in executive orders. Executive orders were not designed for these types of decisions. He is making Congress irrelevant.

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Jaclyn Morgan

10:58 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Absolutely, but not far enough. If someone serves in our military, they should get citizenship! Children should not be punished for what they had no control of.

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FedUpVet

11:22 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Serving in our military one of the ways to earn citizenship. Anyone who serves for this country deserves to be a citizen and has actually done more than someone who simply applies for and follows the citizenship process.

Jeanbean

11:40 am on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I agree with the president's action and hope other immigration issues get settled in a way that people who have lived and worked here for years (generations in some cases) can do so without fear of deportation.

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Devon Seddon

1:06 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Good move? Bad move? Irrelevant. But it sure is funny how one side of the isle is allowed to operate outside the perameters of their jobs but others aren't. Some of you would agree with the President if he said the sky was yellow, but that's for another day.
1st) This is all just pre-emptive posturing ahead of Rubio possibly being chosen as running-mate. Smart, but transparent. If not, why now?
2nd) This problem already has a proven solution based-on ACTUAL equality. However, it would eliminate the politics involved, so they will likely never use it again even though it would end the issue. It's so simple, even you & the Pres. can understand it.
Move the idea of Ellis Island to a few locations on the southern border. You want jobs? There you go. You want more taxes? There they are. You want to be able to cover the costs of having immigrants here & keeping them healthy? Done. You want them to be able to fit into society? Done. You want them to be able to gain bountiful employment. Boom. You want to end ILLEGAL immigration and help begin a better life for immigrants? Also done. Again, it’s just another simple solution that seems to elude our politicians, because of politics.
With very few exceptions, these are people who are looking for better lives, in a new country. They are not only willing to pay their taxes, but would prefer a way to enter this country legally. If you're Dem, you agree with the Pres, if you're Rep, you don't. But the REAL point here is being ignored.

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Bev

2:20 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

just what this country needs. 800,000 more people in the unemployment lines.

this guy needs to be voted out of office. He has thumbed his nose at the constitution and the people of the US long enough.

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Jim

2:41 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Obama's "if we can't do it legally let's just do it illegally" is an outrage. All the discussion here seems lost in the plight of the illegal students. That's irrelevant. The President must follow the law. All these arguments need to be made and changed in the congress (the law makers in our Constitution). Until the Congress changes our immigration laws we all must obey them. One party cannot slam through only their opinion. If they work together a bi-partison solution is possible.

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Holston Black Jr.

6:38 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

How many of you writers know about the numbers of immigrants coming into this country from Europe, Asia, and many other countries everyday, and getting medicaid and medicare as well as foodstamps. Seniors and youth are taking advantage of these programs until their five years are up and then they gain CITIZENSHIP and social security (without having paid one dime into the program). This is not an isolated happening but information that's disseminated through church and other well meaning groups. If many of these people can come and feed on the largesse of this country (many are too old to work anymore) is this better than young people going to school or volunteering for the armed services to protect this country?

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Jacob Piwo

9:26 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

@Holston "From Europe, Asia and many other countries". Since when did Europe and Asia become countries?????

Catherine Moody Dreher

3:31 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I disagree with Obama. Illegal immigrants and their children should follow the legal process to become legal residents. Obama has no right to bypass Congress, the voice of the people, to do whatever he wants. It's time for him to go!

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E. Witzen

5:43 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Absolutely. These children are blameless. And everyone writing into this site, like yours truly, is the descendent of immigrants, some documented, many undocumented. Only the Native Americans, who were here first, and the millions of Africans who were forcibly brought to the US did not immigrate of their own volition or were not refugees. There was no such outcry when in the 1990s Ted Kennedy and others in Congress set up the rules to benefit immigrants from Europe. I hope this is just the first step to comprehensive and enduring immigration reform that benefits the entire US, and not just corporations and people of one single race.

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Patti Rooney

6:14 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Clearly a political move by the king. Why isn't he working with Mexico to improve conditions there do we could improve the problem. People need to come in the legal way which has worked for decades.

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Patricia Whitt

9:24 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

I agree with this executive order. It is fair and sensible. I also agree with the person who noted that it is the responsibility of Congress to make the laws. How can we get rid of all the lobbyists and PACs so the legislature can do their work without so much distraction? Maybe we should lock the doors, turn off the computers, send home the majority of their hired staff, and forget the petitions from all the activist groups. Make it illegal (by executive order if necessary) for campaign donations to be received from any donor residing outside the congressman's or senator's district. Give them 100 days to submit a balanced budget and 60 days to write policy on immigration, agriculture, defense, energy, whatever. Then they can be released to report back to their districts on what they actually accomplished.

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MIKE K

10:46 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Let's get this over with and back up the trucks and move all the Mexicans into the USA. Then we can become a official socialist third world country just like our neighbors to the South. That's what Obama wants anyway, to destroy our country as our parents and grandparents knew it.

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Dori Dana Hudson

11:52 pm on Wednesday, June 20, 2012

Wow! quite a discussion of many people with angry feelings. It seems ironic that on the same day that this question is asked a Bosnian refugee is valedictorian at Affton High School. People who are willing to change countries, whether legally or illegally are the risk-takers who want a better life for themselves and their children. It is this willingness to work hard and strive to make a better life that has shaped the American personality. We should be very glad to welcome those kind of folks to our country, and as one person said, make it much easier to apply to come legally. No one would come illegally, if they could come legally. Last year, during the hottest time of the summer, a crew of Mexican workers were hired to completely redo the landscaping at a neighbors house. They started early, working through the hottest time of day and left late. I don't want to do that work in that heat, and I am grateful that there are people willing to do it. We have benefited from the labor of the parents of these children, so now let the children stay and bring their dreams and gifts to our culture as well. I am grateful that Obama is willing to act when congress is not. Dori

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Chris Helfer

6:53 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

How do you justify breaking the law? Is it because you don't agree with that law ? What if everyone could pick and choose what laws they thought were right and just obeyed those laws? We are either a country of laws or not!

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John Laracuente

9:07 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

no i dont agree with king obama

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FedUpVet

9:10 am on Thursday, June 21, 2012

Who's supposed to pay for all the benefits to be dolled out to these people (no doubt we already paid benefits in the billions)? We'll only need one guess. We print money like it was nothing. We spend money like it's unlimited. Sooner or later it runs out (it did a long time ago) and we're running on borrowed funds. When a crash comes, everyone will say that don't understand why.

Everyone forgets that for us to give away to others that we are taking away from our ability to take care of our own.

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Earl Higgins

1:02 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Interesting results! Now that everyone has had a chance to chime in, it looks like the Patch readership reaction breaks down as follows:

IN FAVOR: 10
NOT IN FAVOR: 12

So it's a fairly even split. Of course, this "survey" is highly unscientific. For instance, if I only count people who use their full names, the verdict is:

IN FAVOR: 10
NOT IN FAVOR: 9

Interesting to note that no one who is in favor of The President's Executive Order chose to hide behind an alias or partial name. However, 25% of those against, did choose to hide behind an alias or partial name (a practice which is at least, frowned upon by Patch).

Of course, again, this is a very unscientific survey and one shouldn't draw too many conclusions from such a small, NOT randomized selection.

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Dan Harrison

6:06 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012

not productive. Dan Harrison

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MIKE K

9:45 pm on Sunday, June 24, 2012

not productive. Mike Kelly

MIKE K

11:15 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

wow, what a spin doctor you are, typical Obama supporter.

Let's look at a real poll:
June 22nd Rasmussen Poll - Romney 48%, Obama 43% With Romney as President and the Republicans controlling both Houses of Congress, you can kiss your precious Executive Order good bye.

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Earl Higgins

11:39 pm on Friday, June 22, 2012

Ummm, "mike k", name-call much? Point to anything that I say that makes me a "spin doctor". Seriously, ANYTHING. I was merely reporting the numbers. And, I might add, warning that "this is a very unscientific survey and one shouldn't draw too many conclusions from such a small…selection."

Tell me "mike k", your quoting of some kind of presidential approval rating from some pollster has what exactly to do with the question at the top of the page?

If I may quote Daniel Patrick Moynihan, "Everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but not his own facts."

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Charles Pavlack

9:00 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Mike, you know that President Obama didn't invent the Executive Order, right? In fact, he's used it far less than any of the previous 5 presidents.

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Earl Higgins

8:48 am on Monday, June 25, 2012

Are you saying that if elected, W. Mitt Romney will not issue any Executive Orders? Did you really just claim that?

Bill McKenzie

10:46 am on Saturday, June 23, 2012

Although I agree with the result, and deplore the feckless way our country has addressed the immigration issue, I am very uneasy with the was this was done. This marks the third time this President has crossed the line by refusing to enforce our laws - which is the president's first responsibility.
First is when he announced he would no longer enforce the the Defense of Marriage Act, second is his violation of freedom of religion by forcing religious institutions to pay for contraceptives and abortifacients they abhor, and now this immigration ruling.
By circumventing the political process, as excruciating as it can be, the president is moving us farther down the road to absolutism, the absolute rule of a man or a group.
He seems nonplussed by any concern other that getting what he wants. He seems very comfortable ruling by decree. But I am very uncomfortable with it. I do not appreciate that he does not govern in keeping with our laws and traditions.
He sometimes seems like a person unfamiliar with American history and government. He rules, not governs. There is a basic lack of respect for the many Americans who have sacrificed their lives and fortunes to build this country that is the exception to rule by dictate.
Our form of government is an endangered species on the world stage. President Obama is a big part of the reason why.

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FedUpVet

5:29 pm on Saturday, June 23, 2012

What ever happened to Congress? They are the ones to pass immigration laws. The President is not supposed to make laws. This man has overstepped and overreached in his office on a daily basis. He feels that he can do whatever he wants without the need of Congress. This is just a start. Besides, doesn't anyone think it was a coincidence that he announced a new immigration policy on the opening eve of the biggest Latino Convention in the country? Political motivation at it's finest from a member of a socialist party that he admits joining previously.

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Justbeingme

8:16 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

I voted for him, but I do not agree with anything he has done, exept for the prexisting conditions of insurance and keeps keeps kids on insurace until they are 26. That has really helped my kids. If another want to be president ever uses that word " Change"
They lost me right there. Change leaving us pennieless. hmm.

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Justbeingme

8:19 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

I have maybe $35 dollars in pennies OBAMA, who would you like them delivered?

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Earl Higgins

10:54 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

You can donate to his reelection campaign online at this address: https://contribute.barackobama.com/donation/index.html

THANKS and good luck!

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Kevin Lane

11:30 pm on Friday, June 29, 2012

Yes, turn over your last pennance for the king you peasant!
Or maybe you should send it to Earl, somebody should at least be being paying him for all of the campaigning he's doing.

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Earl Higgins

2:18 pm on Saturday, June 30, 2012

That's fine too! I will turn over any proceeds received to Obama's reelection campaign. My University City address is easily findable online, or I can send it to you privately.

Honestly, I don't agree with the whole idea of "big money" politics, politics should be about policy and ideas and making things better for the greatest number of everyday, hard-working American people, not what's best for the almighty $$$. But this is the game we have been handed, and it's the game we must play.

Justbeingme

8:31 pm on Thursday, June 28, 2012

Read above to see how I feel.

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Debbie Davis

2:44 pm on Sunday, August 12, 2012

The real problem is the companies who hire them, pay them less then other employees help them obtain illegal social security cards, so their bottom line is better and they can line their pockets. Most of these " illegals" as some of you refer to them pay federal, state, and SS taxes being withheld on their paychecks, yet none of them file income tax returns in order to get their over paid taxes returned to them. Lets remember these are human beings that are being exploited to line the pockets of the so called job creaters!!!!

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Keepalowprofile

8:32 pm on Monday, October 29, 2012

I do not agree with this. Illegal is illegal. Send them back where they came from.

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